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evilxlive |
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Redirect from Toyworld with latest pix of CG display at toy show in Japan.
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They look good, I like all four of them. Thoguh I can warrant spending 150-200 a figure, when I can get some awesome peices from HT for less.
Takara, you know what to do, there is still a market, so drop the prices and up the production runs... HL2
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Johnny E4 |
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if the prices woud drop I'd be all over some of them
"don't just sit there post something"
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forrester |
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OK but no thanks--I prefer to get basic figures and dress them to my own preferences-I would be paying a fortune for costumes that would not be used.I wasnt
around when the original Cy Girls appeared but Im sure that they were more affordable.Still it will be nice to see what the rest of you do with them.
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anders |
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I wouldn't mind getting Asuka and the girls in black, but I have no job at the moment so I have to be careful with my money. Thank heavens for the pretty
and low priced PB girls
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Who's the latest one?
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cobroldy |
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They all look the same to me anymore. I'm not a huge anime fan, so I gotta agree with Forrester...$200 for figure that sould prolly retail for about $40
with a throw away costume is just not viable femfig option for me. I do like the way the breasts on the scarfaced chick look, but I can get a PB and do my own
boob job for less money.
I always look, but I've never even considered getting a Takara CG since the BBi breakup. For the money, I could get half a dozen nude figs and a bunch of materials to sculpt, mold, and cast my own stuff. (I know this, because I just did it...) H "When I was 10 I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I was found doing so. Now I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man
I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up"
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MainlyCustoms |
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eeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh, nothing special.
Any of you could make a kitbash that looks WAY better. Please nobody flush 200$ down the toilet.
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Posts: 435 (01/15/09 08:55:10) Plastic Castaway Do not PM me for help Click here for help |
Tomy is no Takara...
Those figures would have sold for $40 a pop if Takara was still in league with BBI. Sadly Tomy buys out Takara and proceeds to run the CG line into the ground. These are so ridiculously overpriced. I agree on the throwaway costume comments. I'm sure there's a ton of Jun costumes sitting aroudn collecting dust in various bins owned by various collectors. I know I have two or three of those outfits packed away in a box somewhere. I'll probably never use them. This is more of that highly specialized stuff that is real hard to reuse for anything else. Oh... I see there's some black catsuits in there. We don't ever see any of those. Seriously most of this looks like rehash. Even the "new" outfits share patterns with old ones. I agree with MainlyCustoms also... for half the price these cost anyone on this board could make a better looking figure. Matter of fact...I will make a challenge. I'm gonna start up a contest soon. I will let you all in on it when I iron out the details. I could even give away a prize or two. Start thinking about your best "Under $75 Female Kitbash". Details to come. EDIT: Changed to under $75 (will get mucho bonus points the cheaper you go...just to prove you don't need to spend $200 to have a cool figure) |
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Meh. the only one that even remotely piques my interest is the last one. I had an Asuka on pre-order, changed my mind. The outfit just wasn't doin' it
for me, especially at that high price. All I really want to get my hands on are some of the 2.0 bodies and the headsculpts, but not so badly that I'll
allow myself to be overcharged even for them. Too bad...
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Is that last one supposed to be Misato from NGE? Eh boring anyway.
And I lothe that Asuka one. That costume is a cosplayer trainwreck, and they ought to be ashamed of themselves. |
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mistamoose |
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I think the Takara Tomy ship has sailed. Or sinking. One of those expressions.
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Katya R |
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Love the faces and hair on the redhead and the purple haired girl. Too bad they'll never be available at a sane price.
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RichardtheBloody |
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I think it's time we took our beloved old Takara to the vet and have it put out of its misery, sad as it is to say
*cues up Ol' Yeller, only with Tomy taking the shotgun from Ma*
"Up with miniskirts!!!
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Cosplayer train wreck
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Posts: 438 (01/17/09 10:44:12) Only In Your Dreams
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I suppose I better run for cover after posting this, but, I absolutely love Asuka and Dio. But then I love all my Cool Girls. To me, these new cool
girls fit in perfectly stylewise with all the ones that came before. I can see that whether or not some people will buy them depends a lot on whether or not
they like the overall style and look of the Cool Girl line as a set of complete figures verses being interested in buying a base figure to customize. I agree
that these girls are way too expensive for anyone looking for spare parts but then they are being sold as a complete figure based on licensed
characters not as base figures for customizing. That puts them into the same category as the HT movie masterpiece and medicom figures so, unfortunately, the
price is pretty much in line with the marketplace and probably will not be comng down. CGs are still the best bang for the buck imho so I'll stick with
them as long as they continue with the style and quality I'm used to or until someone else produces something on par. I wish the prices would come down,
too but I've been saving up for them. I'd rather buy a few really nice durable quality pieces than flush my $$$$ on stuff that falls apart out of the
package or requires adoll stand to display or is just plain asthetically awkward and ugly...
All that being said, I still haven't decided on Dissectionz--the close up pics of the eyes posted a while back were scary but I love everything else about her. I wonder who the last chick is too--looks very interesting...better start saving some more $$$$ As an aside, I don't think price comparisons to base figures is a fair comparison. It's like comparing the HT carded truetype figures to their most expensive boxed figure...doesn't make sense to me...
cheri
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Ah, but there's some major differences there, Cheri... HT is doing a lot of figures from big name movies with hefty licensing fees - Aliens, Predator,
Terminator, Iron Man, Batman, etc. Takara is doing much smaller licenses (I don't even know what Yatterman Djorno is supposed to be...presumably some
cheesy live-action anime). And the quality of a $170 Takara CG figure is nowhere even close to a $170 Hot Toys figure. Paint apps, construction, clothing
materials, stitching - you name it and HT does it better.
But on the flip side to all this, I have to put Medicom in the same bucket as Takara - overpriced and not nearly enough value for what you're putting down. But I don't generally buy Medicom figures unless they're at a massive discount (50% or more). I think in general, most people are upset that the past few years have seen CG prices roughly double. When the first version Catwoman came out just a coupe of years ago, I think she sold for $90. Now we're being asked to cough up about $170-$180 (or more with shipping, depending on where you buy) for a figure of similar quality, and in most cases - less accessories. I think a lot of people are also concerned that Takara is going to price themselves out of the hobby if the trend continues. Just look at this thread...a board that grew out of being dedicated to the Cy Girl figures and almost no one wants to buy the upcoming releases? |
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If you like 'em, that's cool. But the difference with Asuka and the other CG licensed stuff is that the older ones actually made an attempt to simulate
the look, though sometimes the outfits and the materials don't translate well. Cutey Honey looks like Cutey Honey, Akiko and Fuji(?) look like their
Ultraman characters for the most part. Asuka, I look at it and it's like someone at the design team just vomited out all these pointless tidbits on the
costume because he though they'd look cool, but in the end it's just one jumbled mess. The other ones I guess would be understandable as they look like
who they're supposed to represent.
Concerning the price, for Dissectionz it's a major issue. Advertising it as some basic CG and using a ton of rehashed parts, yet charging an arm and a leg for it? That's way different than the HT truetype and a boxed fig. I'd be pissed if HT decided to make some basic military soldier with just fatigues and a weapon or two, and charging 100+ for it. At least the Truetypes are 30 bucks at most. This could have been a chance for people to snatch up some CG bods with some reasonable clothing and gear at a more sane price than buying loose ones on ebay, but no, they dissed us with Dissectionz. |
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Posts: 439 (01/17/09 15:32:47) Only In Your Dreams
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And the quality of a $170 Takara CG figure is nowhere even close to a $170 Hot Toys figure. Paint apps, construction, clothing materials, stitching - you name it and HT does it better.I have to disagree. I'll stack my Cool Girls up against any of the HT females I have, Machiko, Elizabeth Swann, the USMC chick, and Ripley and Vasquez, any day of the week and imho the CGs easily top the lot of them as far as quality goes. Some of it may be style issues--I happen to hate molded on hair and I prefer the cosplay aspect of the CGs to the movie aspect of the HT girls. As for paint ops and construction, for me, there is no comparison. The CG headsculpts and paint ops are soft and feminine--the HT ones are harsher and less forgiving--but that's a personal preference. Nor is there any comparison when it comes to posability or articulation--imo the CG body rules. I would rate both companies equal as far as outfit material, and fit--both could use improvement. Same goes for accessories... In my experience HT has a problem with top stiching--Takara/Tomy not so much. That said if you are comparing CGs to HT males, the guys definately provide more bang for the buck... Ah, but there's some major differences there, Cheri... HT is doing a lot of figures from big name movies with hefty licensing fees - Aliens, Predator, Terminator, Iron Man, Batman, etc. Takara is doing much smaller licenses (I don't even know what Yatterman Djorno is supposed to be...presumably some cheesy live-action anime).As for the differences in licensing costs, I really have no idea what any of the companies pay. I would imagine some licenses may be pricier than others but, again, I am just guessing. I don't know how popular the anime/movie properties the CGs are based on is in the Asian market (or what that means as far as licensing fees go) but I suspect it is high--otherwise, I don't see why Tomy would bother producing the figures. In any case, the thing I was attempting to point out is that a lot of companies that go to the trouble of acquiring a license are most likely aiming for a particular market niche and will most likely charge whatever the niche tends to support--that's just business--warranted or not. I am in no way defending or supporting the price of the figures--just commenting on why I think the price has jumped in the last few years. Since these figures tend to sell out at the established price point and are highly sought after in their intended market, there doesn't appear to be any incentive to lower the prices--especially when you see the prices most of them fetch in the secondary market--just goes up and up. It sucks, and like I said before, I'd love to see the prices come down but wishing doesn't make it so. I don't believe western market concerns or wants come into play at all. If Takara or now Takara/Tomy was interested in the european and north american markets wouldn't they have found a new distributor to replace BBI? Sadly it seems like Takara made the decision to abandon the western market when they desolved their relationship with BBI and Tomy is following suit. As for the $40 CG, that disappeared before Tomy entered the picture. Luna for one example and all of the Japannese market CGs sold well above that price point when released. Even the alternative figures were closer to the $90-$100 price point... Concerning the price, for Dissectionz it's a major issue. Advertising it as some basic CG and using a ton of rehashed parts, yet charging an arm and a leg for it? That's way different than the HT truetype and a boxed fig. I'd be pissed if HT decided to make some basic military soldier with just fatigues and a weapon or two, and charging 100+ for it. At least the Truetypes are 30 bucks at most.I can see that for some people the price will be an issue and I have no problem with that. It's about the same price point as the new HT Secret Service chicks but is a very different type of figure. For me, price isn't an issue considering she appears to come with a 2.0 body and two complete outfit sets. I have no problem with the price considering the cost of purchasing the pieces seperately. A nice catsuit will run $30-40 boot feet around $12-14 a set, plus hands and gear. Seems like the prevailing price if you are into chicks in catsuits. But again, the comparison doesn't seem fair to me--this figure is going to come with two seperate outfits--that's one set more than Cat Woman came with at roughly a similar price point? The TrueType figures come nude without clothing or accessories, right? However, the creepy eyes may keep me away from this one--reminds me too much of the BJ dolls with the movable eyes and the little blythe dolls--not my cup of tea--at any price. If I get this one, I will mix and match her clothing with the HT gals--seems like a lot of potential in both. Just look at this thread...a board that grew out of being dedicated to the Cy Girl figures and almost no one wants to buy the upcoming releases?That is a shame--whether it is due to the prices or just reflects changes in what people like or don't like about the figures being offered. It's also a shame that it seems like the board has less and less room for anyone who still happens to like and appreciate CGs. Maybe that's why there are so few posts from people who plan to get these or other CGs? I know I post less and less in these threads nor do I post pics of the girls when they arrive... my girls and I are very sensitive Please nobody flush 200$ down the toilet. I admit to feeling a bit defensive but it seems like anytime a post like this one comes up, the majority of posts are negative and anyone who disagrees or has a differing opinion either gets a little jumped on or riduiculed... In the end, the value of any figure is up to the person who is going to fork out the money, right? So maybe what needs to be flushed is some of the negativity...
cheri
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Posts: 457 (01/17/09 15:56:12) Plastic Castaway Do not PM me for help Click here for help |
Elizabeth Swan, Ripley, and the USMC female figure did not cost $150+ each. The newest HT female figure that has come out against the newest CG that has come
out would be a better comparison. The HT figure is superior and MUCH cheaper imo. As for comparing carded bodies...of course that's not a valid comparison,
because after YEARS AND YEARS of Tomy/Takara selling CG's they have yet to release a carded body even though they sell all the time on the after market.
The only reason they don't is so they can continue to overcharge for their increasingly more expensive figures.
One more comparison that I think is very valid: HT Deunan vs. CG Deunan - Any reason the CG was $30-$40 more expensive than the HT figure? Same license for both. Tomy didn't need to make a new body design or anything for it...so I'm not understanding how it's 25-30% MORE expensive for Tomy to make the same character. Having bought Electra, Bloody Rose, Jun, and various others back in 2004/2005 for about $25-$40, there's no way I'm believing it costs them that much more to make these figures. Granted back then they were partnered with BBI as well...but even after that the figures they released were typically under $100. Midori was very complex in terms of outfit and gear and I think I paid $130 total for her...WITH shipping. The licensing costs I'm not believing either. You mean to tell me that Doronjo or whatever her name is has a more expensive license than Catwoman? No...not buying it. Also this board was around before CG's were iirc. Back then they were working with Janes, Barbies, Jakks Pacific, and maybe even some transgenderizing of male figures. That said, buy what you like if it makes you happy, but don't get upset when people call a ripoff a ripoff. |
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Posts: 458 (01/17/09 16:12:19) Plastic Castaway Do not PM me for help Click here for help |
And I want to add one more thing... I understand being lotal to companies who make things you like. In the case of Takara/Tomy it appears that they are not
making things as well as they used to and charging more for them. I don't think that's right. That's my opinion is all. I love the CG stuff I own,
but honestly Midori was the last one I bought from them because after that I just didn't feel the price/value ratio was tipped in my favor.
Cheri likes them still...I'm not so much of a fan. We don't agree obviously and that's okay. I'm not going to tell anyone they're doing something stupid with their money, because I'm sure plenty of people would tell me *I* am doing something stupid with my money by buying toys in the first place. |
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